SUICIDE BOMBER MOTIVATION STORY---THEY WILL COME FOR SURE NOW

Go to Mr. duToit after reading this and you'll feel a lot better, or maybe even worse.Read this from the WaPo (Link via Drudge) and tell me we have any chance in either Iraq or the Middle East. This is worse than any of us ever imagined. Homosexual rape, masturbation, beatings, and

"They forced us to walk like dogs on our hands and knees," said Hiadar Sabar Abed Miktub al-Aboodi, detainee No. 13077. "We had to bark like a dog, and if we didn't do that they started hitting us hard on our face and chest with no mercy. After that, they took us to our cells, took the mattresses out and dropped water on the floor and they made us sleep on our stomachs on the floor with the bags on our head and they took pictures of everything."

What Rush is calling "hazing". I don't see how we can "overcome" this

One day, the detainee said, American soldiers held him down and spread his legs as another soldier prepared to pull down his zipper. "I started screaming," he said. A soldier stepped on his head, he said, and someone broke a phosphoric light and spilled the chemicals on him.

"I was glowing and they were laughing" he said.

The detainee said the soldiers eventually brought him to a room and sodomized him with a nightstick. "They were taking pictures of me during all these instances," he told the investigators.

Remember this will be ALL OVER the Arab World. When we leave they will burn down the schools we built, burn the books we donated to their schools, and purify themselves from us. I'll close with this, but the entire story is worse if you choose to go there. A prisoner describes being tied to a bed. Then a soldier asked him:

"Do you believe in anything?" he said the soldier asked. "I said to him, 'I believe in Allah.' So he said, "But I believe in torture and I will torture you.' "

What the fuck would YOU think if Iraq was your country? The NY Times adds a smear story that doesn't hold up because nothing really happened. ANOTHER article does hold up and it reveals memoranda on how to handle prisoners to avoid the problem of war crimes which says in part

The confidential memorandums, several of which were written or co-written by John C. Yoo, a University of California law professor who was serving in the department, provided arguments to keep United States officials from being charged with war crimes for the way prisoners were detained and interrogated. They were endorsed by top lawyers in the White House, the Pentagon and the vice president's office but drew dissents from the State Department.

The NY Times is a PG-13 version of the WaPo but has an added implication that the guys getting court martialed are just the ones in the pictures; the real pople are still to be had. This is very sad reading for me. Very depressing. So many of our guys have died. And for this? It ain't hazing folks.