GOP with both brains AND balls? Jesus, I thought maybe I accidentally bought some killer shit that launched me into orbit for ten hours, but when I woke up this AM I found that they'd actually put the "GTFOOI"

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.

went to the floor and called the Dems to account. GOP 403 --- Dems 3. Now for the brains part: no PUBLIC trashing of Murtha as a person. The only PUBLIC shit tossed at him came from bloggers, which is why bloggers are blogging and not holding office. However some dippy woman (Jean Schmidt--DW (Dopey Woman), OH) called him a coward, thinking that getting a bronze star meant that he ran faster than anyone else. However it was not a Murtha resolution that was voted upon, one that called for all kinds of cut and run and Iraq taking over their own country and so on, because Murtha only made a statement, not text for a resolution.

Murtha, as well as a hell of a lot of others, sees the war as unwinable, and in terms of total victory everyone knows that. Personally, I think that the culture is so corrupt, so steeped in centuries of tyrants who violently silence opposition, that no democracy can last. Shiias will murder the Sunnis, Kurds will murder both, and in every takeover of an Arab state the guy taking over has had the army on his side. Guess who is training the Iraqi Army? And that superbly trained army will be the super thug military force in the region for years to come, a great tool for the next Saddam wannbe..