Obama vs Hillary----why all the shock? The Clinton style, in case you have forgotten, is to respond to any attack instantly and with a vicious counter attack. (On left, Clinton campaign worker dealing with a snotty cripple) That's the way they are. That's one of the main reasons so many of us disliked them. This particular pissing contest is about Clinton, after taking a hundred million or so from Geffen, refused to pardon a convicted double murderer while pardoning Denise Rich's husband. What Geffen has learned is that it takes money plus a great lay to bribe Billy Bob. BTW: Why the Hollywood hustle? Movie star endorsements are the kiss of death. Everybody hates them. And we learn a little more about Obama from Thomas Sowell.